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aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and the senate and the governor ship in the senate, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate. it's a big deal, it's a poison pill for the eurounions, they h right to work. a lot of new businesses when they're looking at building new factories or building new plants, they won't even consider states that are not right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. so i think economically, if it passes, it will be probably tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan, a state with a 10%, 11% un
aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that you wouldn't have to join a union, it would haven't to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> this just came out of the blue and the republicans just got their ducks in a row and they control the house and...
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right now, the legislature passes a right to work law in michigan. kind of, at least one of the cradles of union -- it would mean that you would not have to join a union. you would not have to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> it just came out of the blue and under the radar screen. republicans got their ducks together, they control the house, senate, and the governorship, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big deal, a poiseen pill for the unions, they hate right to work. i think it's a smart move economically, a lot of new businesses, when looking at building new factories or plans, they will not even consider states that are right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. i think if it passes, and it will probably be tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan with a 10% or 11% unemployment rate, back on the map. >> and one of the highest union states in the country, did a lot to help reelect presiden
right now, the legislature passes a right to work law in michigan. kind of, at least one of the cradles of union -- it would mean that you would not have to join a union. you would not have to pay union dues, how did this happen? >> it just came out of the blue and under the radar screen. republicans got their ducks together, they control the house, senate, and the governorship, even though it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big...
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that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that is at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills, the businesses they're looking for right now. and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology, and clean energy. i want to put people back to work, rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our schools. that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want -- businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel, right here, creating jobs, right here, in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing up manufacturing back to america, that's why i'm here today. since 1938, detroit diesel has be
that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that is at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills, the businesses they're looking for right now. and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology, and clean energy. i want to put people back to work, rebuilding our roads and our...
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>> politically, of course, this could be a major blow to unions in michigan. last month, their voters rejected a referendum that would have made passage of this law unconstitutional. if that right to work law passes, union supporters are convinced pay and benefit could take a major dive. the latest bureau of labor statistics for 2011 put the median salary for full-time union workers at about $940 week compared to about $730 a week for nonunion workers. the head of the united auto workers not happy. >> the data and all the facts show that right to work is the right to work for less. >> susan, supporters including republicans led by gop governor rick snyder maintain that this bill will wind up helping the economy and not hurting it, right. >> that's right allison. the governor insists that the right to work bill will save jobs and increase salaries by not forcing union dues on workers. here's michigan governor rick snyder. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and whe
>> politically, of course, this could be a major blow to unions in michigan. last month, their voters rejected a referendum that would have made passage of this law unconstitutional. if that right to work law passes, union supporters are convinced pay and benefit could take a major dive. the latest bureau of labor statistics for 2011 put the median salary for full-time union workers at about $940 week compared to about $730 a week for nonunion workers. the head of the united auto workers...
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this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the presidential politics and the president saying this is going to happen. so why can't these two men meet in the middle? >> it's interesting, because you're hearing in the public pronouncements almost no movement. the president reportedly lowered his target on tax, you know, revenue from 1.6 to 1.4. boehner stayed exactly the same, 800 billion. they are differing on how to get there. they are still saying the same things they have always been saying but then you have other reports in the "wall street journal" and bloomberg that behind the scenes the staffs are talking real numbers
this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the...
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. >>> in michigan they're working to pass a right to work law. some workers in the state are not happy about one thing, and that's next. >>> you don't have to inbound front of a television to watch cnn, you can do it if your computer at work, go to cnn.com/tv. >>> this is a terrible story out of western pennsylvania. a little boy, 7 years old, shot to death in the parking lot of this gun store north of pittsburgh. police say the boy was buckling himself into a car seat when the pistol his father was handling in the front seat accidentally went off. can you imagine? the bullet hit the boy and he died at the scene. the father could face charges over this. authorities say he is beside himself. >> the father is traumatized and visibly shaken. it's -- experienced probably the worst tragedy anybody can go through is to take your own son's life. >> officers that talked to the father say he was not aware that his pistol was even loaded. >>> president barack obama visits union heavy michigan tomorrow, a state he won easily last month and now the center of
. >>> in michigan they're working to pass a right to work law. some workers in the state are not happy about one thing, and that's next. >>> you don't have to inbound front of a television to watch cnn, you can do it if your computer at work, go to cnn.com/tv. >>> this is a terrible story out of western pennsylvania. a little boy, 7 years old, shot to death in the parking lot of this gun store north of pittsburgh. police say the boy was buckling himself into a car...
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if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs, some inflatable rafts, often a symbol of union protests, sitting on the lawn outside here and inside, yes, there are protesters inside, especially right where the gallery is, right where the house floor is, because they want to watch the house in action when it begins in session at 10:00 a.m. in about an hour, so they'll be able to watch the legislative process at work. but there's a huge spillover crowd inside the capitol building, a huge crowd, a couple hundred, in each rotunda on three floors chanting, you can hear their voices inside the capital, once you walk in, you can hear their voices reverb ra
if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs,...
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ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in this country, you don't have to have -- you don't have to pass any test, you don't have to know anything about a gun, you don't have to have a background check to carry a concealed weapon. if the nra got its way it would pass its top federal priority which would allow people who could get a permit from any state in the country or didn't have to have a permit, or happen to live in states that hand them out like candy, and they would be able to use that permit to carry a concealed weapon in any city, in any community, in any place in the united states, including new york city and times square, where we ac
ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in...
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steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched the organization for a while, my dad was a licensed gun dealer in colorado, i know a lot of nra members, it was a really surprising performance. the nra is usually quite smart. then again, they've never been under pressure like this. it struck me as incoherent and bordering on detached from reality. talking about things lapierre gets paid a lot of money to talk about on a regular basis. it was not the time to say things even nra members don't believe. nra members are not the washington leadership. they're two very different things. nra members want commonsense gun la
steve doolan of the michigan coalition for responsible gun owners. he's having technical problems, we'll bring up his shot in just a moment. mark, you heard from the nra a real focus not so much even on guns, really talking about mental illness, they talked about tracking people who are mentally ill, they talked about pretty much everything, you know, not about taking away guns, but adding more guns. what did you make of their news conference today? >> you know, as somebody who's watched...
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cnn's alison kosik joins us live from lansing, michigan. alison, i know this was a surprise to some in michigan because governor rick snyder did a bit of an about face on this issue. >> reporter: and some are accusing the governor of really pushing this issue through the state house, and clearly they're not happy with it. you can see how unhappy those opposed to this bill are, just looking at the sheer number of demonstrators who came out last week and are expected to come out this week. thousands are expected to come out between today and tomorrow. president of one teachers union who we spoke with put it this way. she said, you know what, never in a million years did i ever think that michigan would ever become a right to work state, that michigan was built on unions, and you know what, she has a point there. unions have really been the backbone for workers in this state, especially when you look at the auto industry. 17.5% of the workers in this state are unionized. it's one of the highest rates in the country. and if this law passes, ted
cnn's alison kosik joins us live from lansing, michigan. alison, i know this was a surprise to some in michigan because governor rick snyder did a bit of an about face on this issue. >> reporter: and some are accusing the governor of really pushing this issue through the state house, and clearly they're not happy with it. you can see how unhappy those opposed to this bill are, just looking at the sheer number of demonstrators who came out last week and are expected to come out this week....
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. >>> president barack obama visits union heavy michigan tomorrow a state he won easily last month and now the center of new labor protests. it's close to passing a right to work law and that is not sitting well with workers in the state where organized labor was born. one of the biggest labor unions in the state is firmly against the law which limits the union's power. the republican governor says he will sign the bill if it hits his desk this week. >>> you know, it's been dubbed the fireball over texas. a bright light was seen streaking across the houston sky friday morning and for a few hours it was the walk of the town. debra wrigley of ktrk has the story. >> reporter: from a nasa camera, it looked like a bright light above the earth. these are from eyewitness viewers around the houston area. just as day was breaking a bright flash of light that some people thought was lightning. >> i was like i guess it's going to rain. >> reporter: it wasn't the weather and it was spotted all around texas. this map just a sampling of sightings in the houston area, and these are some of the pictur
. >>> president barack obama visits union heavy michigan tomorrow a state he won easily last month and now the center of new labor protests. it's close to passing a right to work law and that is not sitting well with workers in the state where organized labor was born. one of the biggest labor unions in the state is firmly against the law which limits the union's power. the republican governor says he will sign the bill if it hits his desk this week. >>> you know, it's been...
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let's turn now to senator debbie stabenow of michigan. there's been a lot of conversation in the liberal community in this country about this. and democrats seem to be chomping at the bit. is this going to happen? are we going to see change? >> yes, i believe that we are going to see change. we have the support to make the changes and i think it's clear the public wants us to get something done. of course, we're going to work across the aisle, but one person shouldn't be able to hold up the department of defense bill or in the case of my bringing jobs home act, which is so important for shipping jobs overseas, we had 57 votes but we couldn't get 60 to stop a filibuster and they haven't to stand on the floor and talk so nobody knew who it was from block us to closing loopholes to bring jobs home. this is common sense. >> so senator, what's your response to mitch mcconnell what he says the filibuster reform is an effort to marginalize the minority party? >> it's crazy. he has been marginalizing the majority party. the last six years, there
let's turn now to senator debbie stabenow of michigan. there's been a lot of conversation in the liberal community in this country about this. and democrats seem to be chomping at the bit. is this going to happen? are we going to see change? >> yes, i believe that we are going to see change. we have the support to make the changes and i think it's clear the public wants us to get something done. of course, we're going to work across the aisle, but one person shouldn't be able to hold up...
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so we can evaluate, say, the relative raucousness of michigan state, but not the state of michigan. that's the intoxicating irony of this day, repeal day. that's the day prohibition ended. and the 35th state to ratify and repeal was utah. good looking out. december 5th, repeal day, is a thing. the question is, in the year 2091, will december 6th be a thing? because tomorrow is repeal day too. that story is coming up. [ laughing ] ahh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. look! over time, cascade complete pacs fight film buildup two times better than finish quantum to help leave glasses sparkling. cascade. the clear choice. >>> sheldon adelson is both a formerly reclusive casino mogul and the newly infamous $100 million bankroller of republican campaigns and thanks to all that giving, now the world's biggest mark for hustling republican consultants. mr. adelson is the subject of a big splashy interview today with "the wall street journal" that is chock-full of surprises. exhibit a, quoting mr. adelson, "look, i'm basically a social libera
so we can evaluate, say, the relative raucousness of michigan state, but not the state of michigan. that's the intoxicating irony of this day, repeal day. that's the day prohibition ended. and the 35th state to ratify and repeal was utah. good looking out. december 5th, repeal day, is a thing. the question is, in the year 2091, will december 6th be a thing? because tomorrow is repeal day too. that story is coming up. [ laughing ] ahh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! easy. hi....
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al qaeda. >> michigan is now the right to work state. >> this will attract more businesses to michigan. those businesses will need space. >> the owner of a michigan construction co., preceded by a union member who works at a general mots plant. michig govrick sande signed legislation -- rick snyder right to work legislation into law. the president said that what they're talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. a right to work at state, michigan? >> it is incredible. the republican legislature has passed this. there are two institutions that greeted the middle class in america with of the 10 states with the highest per capita income, although one is a non- right to work state. the 10 states with the highest medical coverage for the workers, eight of the 10 are not right to work states. where workers have the right to organize and unions, and those can be effective marketing, it raises the level of living for all americans. that, frankly,he fastest- growing states -- three of the 20 are right to work states. that puts that to rest. it is a chance to destroy unions, u
al qaeda. >> michigan is now the right to work state. >> this will attract more businesses to michigan. those businesses will need space. >> the owner of a michigan construction co., preceded by a union member who works at a general mots plant. michig govrick sande signed legislation -- rick snyder right to work legislation into law. the president said that what they're talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. a right to work at state, michigan? >>...
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i was looking at pictures today of the president in michigan. i thought, wait a minute, i thought the election was over. people are going to see through this. you can't sell them short. they'll figure it out. >> to ben's point, we know americans support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000. that's not many people and most people support other people paying more taxes. so most people support it, why is he out talking about it and not talking to john boehner? >> you might remember there was a bit of a scuffle in the campaign when the president said you can't change washington from the inside. he has long believed that, and not only was he out in michigan, but he engaged his organization, the obama supporters across the country. the campaign sent out an e-mail asking them to call their member of congress. the fact that the public has supported for two years now, 60% of americans have supported higher rates, yet republicans haven't moved. you're seeing an increasing number of republican members of congress dropping off and agreeing with th
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. >>> president obama visits union-heavy michigan tomorrow. a state he won easily last month and now the center of new labor protests. the michigan legislature is close to passing a right to work law and that is not sitting well with workers in the state where organized labor was born. one of the biggest labor unions in the country, united auto workers, is firmly against the law which limits the unions' power. michigan's republican governor says he'll sign the bill if it hits his desk this week. >>> we heard from the boss of a radio station behind that london hospital prank. the joke apparently led to the suicide of a nurse who worked there. the australian network chairman calls the death truly tragic and says they're waiting for the full investigation to be complete. two australian deejays called the hospital impersonating british royals and managed to get personal information about prince william easily wife. the nurse who took the call was found dead two days later. the hospital says the deejays' prank was foolish. >>> it as decades-old ref
. >>> president obama visits union-heavy michigan tomorrow. a state he won easily last month and now the center of new labor protests. the michigan legislature is close to passing a right to work law and that is not sitting well with workers in the state where organized labor was born. one of the biggest labor unions in the country, united auto workers, is firmly against the law which limits the unions' power. michigan's republican governor says he'll sign the bill if it hits his desk...
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. >>> president obama in michigan today selling americans on the plan for taxes. we are 22 days away from the cliff. does the plan add up? >>> daring rescue in afghanistan claims the life of an american navy s.e.a.l. as we prepare to go to afghanistan, we take a closer look at the american troop presence and how many americans will stay. >>> and off field violence leads to the death of two nfl violence. why the violence on the field is much more important issue. let's go out front. >>> jup testify-like storm. is it a slope? a downward spiral towards something much worse? the possibility is just 22 days away and sounds ominous but it could be a walk in the park compared with what could happen if lawmakers don't take a closer look at our bigger debt picture and soon. because what they're talking about is peanuts. president obama was in michigan today pushing the fiscal cliff plan and you know what? he made the solution sound so simple. >> when you put it altogether what you need is a package that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families, we make some tou
. >>> president obama in michigan today selling americans on the plan for taxes. we are 22 days away from the cliff. does the plan add up? >>> daring rescue in afghanistan claims the life of an american navy s.e.a.l. as we prepare to go to afghanistan, we take a closer look at the american troop presence and how many americans will stay. >>> and off field violence leads to the death of two nfl violence. why the violence on the field is much more important issue. let's...
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in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo salaries can be higher when workers' wages are lower. >> julian, by our count seven 69 ten poorest states in the u.s. are right to work states. >> exactly. >> nine of the ten richest are not. >> that's true. >> why do they support this legislation claiming that it helps workers? it does the exact opposite. >> if you look at the right to work states, they generally tend to have lower wages, generally tend to have higher unemployment. the argument on the other side was economic growth, they tend to be growing faster. >> so that's the rick perry argument. >>
in places like flint, michigan, and detroit, michigan. it's really tragic that if this is some kind of political gamesmanship to try to institute this right to work piece here in michigan, that it's sad. but i do think there are more than just political outcomes for the governor and for whatever wealthy cronies he has in his back pocket. at the end of the day when you have these right to work laws in place, the economic gap, the concentration of wealth in the top 2%, ceo payouts and ceo...
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michigan, if the second part does pass today, michigan would become and goes to the governor's desk, of course, where he signs. the 24th state in the country have there is right-to-work legislation. what it means is that, if you're looking for work here in the state of m. michigan you would not have to pay fees to a union as a condition to get or keep that job. it means that you're not going to be forced to join a union anymore. obviously, a huge blow, not just to unions here in michigan where unions were born. the united autoworkers union born here in 1935 but it wouldn't be a blow to unions here in michigan. it could undercut the power and influence of unions across the country. >> all right. we'll be getting more from you as this develops. a lot of people who are quite angry about this. this is a controversial issue in state of michigan. we are also watching violence in egypt. mass gunmen opening fire on opposition protesters in cairo's tahrir square rounding several people. crowds are gathering at key spots in the capital including outside the presidential palace. rival rallies t
michigan, if the second part does pass today, michigan would become and goes to the governor's desk, of course, where he signs. the 24th state in the country have there is right-to-work legislation. what it means is that, if you're looking for work here in the state of m. michigan you would not have to pay fees to a union as a condition to get or keep that job. it means that you're not going to be forced to join a union anymore. obviously, a huge blow, not just to unions here in michigan where...
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we have a michigan republican controlled legislature right now. is that why you dove into this now while you could? >> tracy, thanks for joining us. this is a monmental night because it's a monumental win for michigan's workers. we kept the focus on the workers, their freedom to choose which organizions to join and what they don't want to join. we know there were clashes. know people demonstrated inappropriately, but good stories as well. clnup happening on the lawn by the demonstrators, but the point is throughout it all, we haveto keep focus on people going to work every day to literally build our state. tracy: right, because now it's easier to woo companies into michigan to bring obs; right? the states like south carolina, alabama, texas, have seen a boom in companies coming to work there because, well, it's easier, and it's cheaper african-american they don't have to -- and they don't ha to deal with the unions. >> two policy conversations that happened, and then there was the political. the democrats and union bosses focused on the political,
we have a michigan republican controlled legislature right now. is that why you dove into this now while you could? >> tracy, thanks for joining us. this is a monmental night because it's a monumental win for michigan's workers. we kept the focus on the workers, their freedom to choose which organizions to join and what they don't want to join. we know there were clashes. know people demonstrated inappropriately, but good stories as well. clnup happening on the lawn by the demonstrators,...
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thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two d
thousands battling over michigan's right to work. will the governor reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp...
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they want them here in michigan. i can't overstate how significant this is especially in a state like michigan for all the workers here that are unioni unionized. >> poppy harlow in michigan, thank you. >>> we have a look at some of the other stories making news. >> the u.s. navy is moving warships into position to monitor a possible launch. they are guided missile destroyers. the navy won't reveal their act locations. images reveal north carolina appears to be working towards a launch later this month. >>> the attorney for george zimmerman who is charged with killing trayvon martin refuses to say he won't go that route to avoid a murder trial. >> no. i wouldn't plea somebody who is innocent to anything. so i think the answer is easily no. >> zimmerman is suing nbc for defamation. the network edited his 911 call to make him sound racist. nbc says there was no intent to portray him unfairly. three employees were fired over that. >>> john mcafee faces extradition again. he was rushed to the hospital in guatemala city y
they want them here in michigan. i can't overstate how significant this is especially in a state like michigan for all the workers here that are unioni unionized. >> poppy harlow in michigan, thank you. >>> we have a look at some of the other stories making news. >> the u.s. navy is moving warships into position to monitor a possible launch. they are guided missile destroyers. the navy won't reveal their act locations. images reveal north carolina appears to be working...
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let me ask you this about michigan workers. there are some who actually support this new legislation. >> reporter: they do. that's a very good point, wolf. it's a minority. you have the majority of union workers that are fighting this because they think it's going to be lower wages, less bargaining power. but i spoke with a former union worker who was with ford for 16 years. i met with him first this summer when we were here in michigan covering the election and the campaign here. he's been fighting for two years to get this right to work legislation passed and here's why. you support the right to work legislation but you're going to stay a member of the union and pay those union dues. >> that's right. >> reporter: so what changes for you now? >> it will give me a voice. it will give me leverage inside the union. under current law, i can retire but i still have to pay the union so they don't care. >> reporter: and that's what is critical in all of this, wolf. the unions are going to have to make a very good case to every worker
let me ask you this about michigan workers. there are some who actually support this new legislation. >> reporter: they do. that's a very good point, wolf. it's a minority. you have the majority of union workers that are fighting this because they think it's going to be lower wages, less bargaining power. but i spoke with a former union worker who was with ford for 16 years. i met with him first this summer when we were here in michigan covering the election and the campaign here. he's...
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this affects 33 different districts in michigan. school officials say the threats turned out to be false, but apocalypse rumors are seriously distracting students and the staff. meanwhile, in france police are keeping people away from one village that some say will be the only area to survive. doom's day now on the myan calendar, it's tomorrow. in china officials arrested nearly 1,000 cult members for spreading rumors about the end of the world. the ancient myans believed that the end of the world will happen on 2012. look at the clock right there. it's 5:50 a.m. in ahs rail why. time for sunrise, and lo and behold, they are all still there, so hope is out for us for tomorrow. we're back after this. icken potp and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. hello. mmm i can still see you. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. great tasting water can come fr
this affects 33 different districts in michigan. school officials say the threats turned out to be false, but apocalypse rumors are seriously distracting students and the staff. meanwhile, in france police are keeping people away from one village that some say will be the only area to survive. doom's day now on the myan calendar, it's tomorrow. in china officials arrested nearly 1,000 cult members for spreading rumors about the end of the world. the ancient myans believed that the end of the...
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for a single 25-year-old in michigan who works full-time earning $30,000 a year going to school part-time, his tax rate would stay the same at 15%. but he would lose the american education tax credit and have to pay more than $600 in payroll taxes. and even though it's weeks before the changes would take effect the impact is already being felt because of uncertainty. 401(k) plans are taking a hit. companies are putting freezes on hiring. and the retail sector which makes most of its money in the final weeks of the year. black friday is over and people are just hoping it doesn't turn into bleak friday. >> trying to be penny wise and not dollar stupid. >> the national retail federation did a survey that 64% of americans are watching closely the negotiations in washington over the fiscal cliff and that a lot of consumers are taking a wait and see approach, reluctant to go on a spending spree. >>> okay, i know you've got them, you've got questions about the fiscal cliff, so get them to me by tweeting them to me at my handle at allisoncossack and we'll handle as many as we can during our 5:00
for a single 25-year-old in michigan who works full-time earning $30,000 a year going to school part-time, his tax rate would stay the same at 15%. but he would lose the american education tax credit and have to pay more than $600 in payroll taxes. and even though it's weeks before the changes would take effect the impact is already being felt because of uncertainty. 401(k) plans are taking a hit. companies are putting freezes on hiring. and the retail sector which makes most of its money in...
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it's about those new right to work signs in michigan yesterday. the detroit free press is out with an editorial saying unions need to remind people who life was like without them. unions built the middle class and improved the standard of living for workers. do you think unions helped grow the middle class. go to facebook."news nation" to cast the vote. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. patty murray, former pennsylvania governor and the daily beast will all join the "news nation." the cycle is up next. you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. pick up a ridgid jobmax multi-tool starter kit and get a free head attachment.
it's about those new right to work signs in michigan yesterday. the detroit free press is out with an editorial saying unions need to remind people who life was like without them. unions built the middle class and improved the standard of living for workers. do you think unions helped grow the middle class. go to facebook."news nation" to cast the vote. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. patty murray, former pennsylvania governor and the daily beast will all join the...
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michigan deemed itself a right-to-work state. with legal cllenges and recall efforts already in the air, what is next for the state? does this mark the beginning of the end for unions? let's ask james shirk, and chip merlin. chip i'm going with you first, everyone wants to know the legal ramifications, can the unions come back to appeal this. >> they can try to appeal, whether not they would win is anybody's guess, this equal protect argument, why did they carve out police officer and fire department, and everyone else is subject to this particular law that is not equal protect, the state of mhigan will sapphire fighters and police are important to our public safety, w is withholding union dues related to safety. >> that part you say could makes it way to a courtroom? >> it could. >> we've seen in ohio and wisconsin, they unkid the limb -- unkid the limited part of the law for collective bargains. >> in wisconsin, the law was thrown out but it was a different law from here in michigan, the michigan law and i first impression for
michigan deemed itself a right-to-work state. with legal cllenges and recall efforts already in the air, what is next for the state? does this mark the beginning of the end for unions? let's ask james shirk, and chip merlin. chip i'm going with you first, everyone wants to know the legal ramifications, can the unions come back to appeal this. >> they can try to appeal, whether not they would win is anybody's guess, this equal protect argument, why did they carve out police officer and...
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michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the minority or not. you basically all said that they are. therefore, it is the exception. when someone loses a political fight they protest. that is great thing about democracy. throwing into solyndra in there. here is where you are wrong. let me explain. >> this is the sin of obama economics it was supposed to go to shovel-ready jobs and men and women would partake in. it was handed to states so they could keep their pension funds flh and finance things like solyndra. even the president joked about there was no shovel-ready jobs. the labor m
michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the...
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so we can evaluate, say, the relative raucousness of michigan state, but not the state of michigan. that said, two sill bollabyllab and tah. that's the intoxicating irony of this day, repeal çday. that's the day prohibition ended. and the 35th state to ratify and repeal was utah. good looking out. december 5th, repeal day, is a thing. the question is, in the year 2091, will december 6th be a thing? because tomorrow is repeal day too. that story is coming up. box is p that makes watching tv even better. if your tv were a hot dog, zeebox would be some sort of fancy, french mustard. just like adding fancy mustard to a hotdog makes you go "woah!," zeebox adds video, info, and playalongs to spice up your favorite shows. download zeebox free and say "woah" every time you watch tv. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [
so we can evaluate, say, the relative raucousness of michigan state, but not the state of michigan. that said, two sill bollabyllab and tah. that's the intoxicating irony of this day, repeal çday. that's the day prohibition ended. and the 35th state to ratify and repeal was utah. good looking out. december 5th, repeal day, is a thing. the question is, in the year 2091, will december 6th be a thing? because tomorrow is repeal day too. that story is coming up. box is p that makes watching tv...
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. >>> historic day that michigan as michigan lawmakers snubbed organized laborer by passing right to work legislation. we'll hear from the governor about why he says unions have no one to blame but themselves. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. at the chevy year-end event because chevy's giving more. more efficiency with sonic and cruze... more function in equinox and traverse... more dependability with the legendary silverado... and more style in the all-new malibu. chevy's giving more at the year-end event because 'tis the season. chevy's giving more. this holiday season, get a 2013 cruze ls for around $149 per month or get $500 holiday bonus cash. progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. ar
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. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way
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plus, we'll ask the president of the sciu what michigan's right to work fight means for labor in the new year. white house watchers turn weight watchers. how critical should size be when judging governor chris christie's oval office bona fitis. all that in three minutes. eatme. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back.
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they claim they're helping the michigan economy. but michigan voters don't seem to agree. this is a number that is astounding. a new poll out shows that only 6% of voters surveyed want the legislature to make michigan a right-to-work state. union members say michigan republicans are simply hurting the economy. >>. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> we're still here. we're still going to fight, even when the odds are stacked against us. >> i know that they're saying that right-to-work will make more jobs. but i don't think that. i believe that right-to-work is going to hurt the people out there. >> to take that away by this kind of right-wing attack by the republican administration is a disgrace to everything michigan has stood for decades and decades. >> so governor snyder, i find it interesting. if you sign this, how can you stand in front of the people and say this is what the people want with a number like that? this is how serious this issue is tonight. the entire democratic delegation called a special meeting with the michigan governor, senator debbie stabenow.
they claim they're helping the michigan economy. but michigan voters don't seem to agree. this is a number that is astounding. a new poll out shows that only 6% of voters surveyed want the legislature to make michigan a right-to-work state. union members say michigan republicans are simply hurting the economy. >>. >> tell me what democracy looks like! >> we're still here. we're still going to fight, even when the odds are stacked against us. >> i know that they're saying...
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it's important to michigan. two suburban school districts in and around detroit have shut down, because teachers won't be available to be in class, because hundreds of teachers are taking personal days to come here to have their voices heard as well. so one little facet of this, showing how important it is to the state. >> alison kosik, live in michigan, thank you very much. >>> six minutes after the hour. he's the warrior and hero who helped free an american doctor from the taliban. more about nicholas cheque. hard working, enthusiastic, joined the navy in 2002 after graduating from high school. checque received the bronze star during his ten-year career. a real true life hero. >> a life taken too soon. >>> it appears syria has gotten the message it should not use chemical weapons against rebels trying to overthrow the assad regime. >> we haven't seen anything new indicating any aggressive steps to move forward in that way. but we continue to monitor it very closely and we continue to make clear to them that th
it's important to michigan. two suburban school districts in and around detroit have shut down, because teachers won't be available to be in class, because hundreds of teachers are taking personal days to come here to have their voices heard as well. so one little facet of this, showing how important it is to the state. >> alison kosik, live in michigan, thank you very much. >>> six minutes after the hour. he's the warrior and hero who helped free an american doctor from the...
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michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot: exactly. do you think they provided cover for these heinous bills in the sense that so much attention was focused on them that these awful anti-choice bills were snuck in the dark of night. >> i don't think so because there is even more on the agenda. there is another emergency financial manager legislation which with legislation that governor snyder signed, it was the fourth bill that became law in his term. so less than two years ago. and our voters said, we don't want that. we just voted in november. yet on the floor we're taking up another bill on
michigan is primarily a rural state. this will be extremely difficult for people outside of southeastern michigan to get reproductive healthcare. so for us as nurses i think we'll have to do more education and outreach in the community. it's going to take a little time to figure out what strategies we're going to use. >> eliot: when we think of michigan, as with every state that there is diversity politically. in the right to work laws. >> right to work for less. >> eliot:...
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michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the minority or not. you basically all said that they are. therefore, it is the exception. when someone loses a political fight they protest. that is great thing about democracy. throwing into solyndra in there. here is where you are wrong. let me explain. >> this is the sin of obama economics it was supposed to go to shovel-ready jobs and men and women would partake in. it was handed to states so they could keep their pension funds flush and finance things like solyndra. even the president joked about there was no shovel-ready jobs. the labor
michigan represents unions. the fact that that state turned.... >> their worry should be about the economy. the economy is lousy. president promised shovel-ready jobs, and guess what, you got solyndra. what is fascinating about this, union leadership still blames republicans and conservatives, fox news when their real problem clearly is the fact that president obama basically with his stimulus package and this economy has sold them out. >> the violent actions are either in the...
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. >> what can we do in 10,000 years, look how far we went in 70 years, my grand father in a farm in michigan, watched first guy walk on the room. in her lifetime, i would like to see next generation leave footprints like we left on the moon, i hope it happens. at's th! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] atat humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals ho understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announc ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professional who helped us achieve the highest average star rating among national medicare companies... and become the first and only national medicare advantage company to achieve a 5-star rating for a medicare plan... your efforts result in the quality of care and serve we're able to provide... which means better health outcomes... and more quality time to share with the ones who matter most. i love you, grandma! [ male an
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the fight over labor unions in michigan is vocal and physical. thousands of protestors stormed the capital trying to stop the right to work bills. the measures were introduced and passed in a single day, rushed through, democrats argue, calling it a subversion of the legislative process. >> it terrifies me they're trying to pass it through so quickly with no discussion, no understanding of what's important in it. >> the measured would make it illegal for unions and employers to mandate employees joining a union or pay any money to a union. >> i don't view it as anti-union. >> i was told it was anti-worker saying it gives workers less of a choice, what do you say to that? >> that is back ward, this is about being proworker. >> governor schnider's legislation is anti-worker and it will be a devastating blow to the middle class here. >> the three bills impact both public and private sector workers from teachers to auto workers. opponents say they limit workers rights, benefits, and wages. >> if you pay me less money, if i have to work for minimum wa
the fight over labor unions in michigan is vocal and physical. thousands of protestors stormed the capital trying to stop the right to work bills. the measures were introduced and passed in a single day, rushed through, democrats argue, calling it a subversion of the legislative process. >> it terrifies me they're trying to pass it through so quickly with no discussion, no understanding of what's important in it. >> the measured would make it illegal for unions and employers to...
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the president flew to michigan where helasted the republican-led state legislature and the republican governor fo their support of righto-work legislation. his timing could hardly have been worse that worker rights leglation will be voted on and gen final approval tomorrow and be sgned into law by govern rick snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues a a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight what's happening inichigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayer blind." llory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egan military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the ctatorial powers he assumed which have spurre violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone perpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence jo negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superp
the president flew to michigan where helasted the republican-led state legislature and the republican governor fo their support of righto-work legislation. his timing could hardly have been worse that worker rights leglation will be voted on and gen final approval tomorrow and be sgned into law by govern rick snyder. michigan becomes the 24th state in the nation to ratify a aw that protects workers from being forced to pay union dues a a condition of their employment. we'll be examining tonight...
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as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the part of you i see on tv scares me. >> yeah, i think it does hurt the union movement, and that's very unfortunate. you know, my family, allupon members in southeast michigan, and what's unfortunate, once legislation goes into effect, they can still belong to a union, they have the freedom to do that. the unions going down the road hurts themselves and chance to attract members when the members will have that opportunity to choose whether to be in the union or not. neil: scott, greg, thank you, both. greg, keep us posted if you're getting the reward and get the information needed. as i often say on
as he indicated, from the floor of the michigan house, the michigan democrats owned this because they called for blood, and since the union organized it, i think there's implications here. talking about a culture of organized crime. neil: well, that might be the next step. it's a bit of a leap, but, scott, it's your view right now this has hurt the union movement for awhile? that americans seeing this will look at this and say, well, you want people to have the right to be a part of you. the...